The Minister of Economics of the German state of Baden-Wurttemberg, Nicole Hoffmeister-Kraut, outlines her alternative to a value-oriented German foreign policy. Instead, she advocates an interest-driven foreign economic policy. She considers tariffs on Chinese EVs right if dumping is indeed taking place – but she wants to avoid a trade conflict. Stefan Braun and Finn Mayer-Kuckuk spoke with Hoffmeister-Kraut.